Showing posts with label Ameerpet. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ameerpet. Show all posts

Sunday, 13 April 2014

Some Ideas And Tips On SAP Courses From Ameerpet, Hyderadbad Part 2

This is a continuation from a previous post, you can read that here.

Non-Technical to SAP:


If you have done your research well then you know SAP has a number of modules—HR, FICO, CRM, PI, MM, SD, PP and many many more. You can break into SAP through here and from my experience it should be easier, ok maybe not easy given the competition but it's definitely a more rational approach. 

To go this way, you should have some previous experience in the functional module you want to enter i.e. to get into SAP HR you should have worked in HR for some years, for logistics modules, get experience in that area which is shipping, cargo, goods movement etc. for SAP FICO get some experience in the finance sector like accounts, CA, MBA, BCOM degrees etc.

This way is probably out of the way for you if you are an engineering graduate in that case the best way is going through Java, SQL or some other developing career and then getting into SAP slowly inside your organization - make sure your organization works with SAP first, LOL! I covered more of that in the previous post.

Say even after this long warning you still want to go for an SAP course straight after your graduation. Maybe you think I'm just another frustrated loser who couldn't get a job and is now taking revenge against SAP and so my advice is not important or you feel you can make it or maybe the hiring trends change and now companies are dying fresh new SAP talent and are do hiring. I'd still keep following points in mind.

Do more than just SAP


The official SAP certification course is just 25 days which is 9hours/day and trust those "SAP Authorized Partner" classes to finish it off in 17days. That whole exercise is boring, stupid and ridiculous and I like said before we'll get to it later. Coming back to our SAP Street, here SAP coaching goes on for a minimum of 3 months and if you have what it takes to run it a little fast track you can do it in two and a half. 

So keeping in mind the first point about interviews my advice is attend some more courses and enhance your overall skill set rather than just doing SAP, and this is good risk management too and in the long run a very good investment. There are plenty to choose from: Java, SQL, PL/SQL, Android, DOT NET etc. Out of these Java will always help you as this clip shows how important Java is for our civilization to function. Also SAP has decided to incorporate more of Java into its package.  SQL and PL/SQL are also hot skills to have and will only help. 

I call it risk management because if in case you are having a hard time getting into SAP you always something to fall back on and an investment because these courses here will be cheaper than anywhere in the country and probably the rest of the world and its good time management too since you will here for 3 months for SAP anyway and in the same time you can pick up these skills too, plus it shines on your resume that you really believe in updating your skills.

People faking experience


This has been a problem for quite some years now I guess, people lying on their resumes claiming work experience in projects they never did. One guy I know who went for the SAP ABAP course at one coaching center in Ameerpet post his graduation took up a job as a lab assistant there post the course and after doing that for three years and simultaneously attending courses for SAP functional modules recently bagged a job which belongs to someone with 3 years experience in ABAP + Functional projects. 

If you still not getting it, the idea is to just fill your resume with SAP experience for the number of years between your graduation and start of the SAP job search. Most people spend the gap studying and equipping themselves with foolproof SAP knowledge to crack the really tough interviews which someone with 3 years in SAP should expect.

It seems a large percentage of "experienced" SAP consultants are actually fake profiles, some people are saying up to 90% on some forums, and there's no way to gauge this and of course this harms the the people with actual experience and also lowers the opportunities for freshers by creating an artificial pool of "experienced" people in the market who then get interview calls and also eventually get hired that too with really good packages. Well, ain't honesty a bitch!

Get EMAX notes


This is a little personal advice coming from the notes I used to study ABAP. EMAX is just another coaching class around SAP Street in Ameerpet and their notes includes 5 books Rs.500 for covering a good amount of ABAP stuff for beginners. 

It doesn't cover Module Pool programming and WebDenPro (at least in the notes I got) maybe they will add that up. The notes include screen shots with demos like on SapTechnical.

I kept saying we will get to SAP's official certification but now this post has now become too long and I think the topic deserves an entire blog post of its own, so come back.

Monday, 7 April 2014

Some Ideas And Tips On SAP Courses From Ameerpet, Hyderabad

The SAP scene has recently exploded and now everybody wants to be an SAP Consultant. Such is the demand that there's an SAP Street in Ameerpet full of SAP coaching classes offering the hottest modules for as low as 12k for a year—Yes, 12k and you can attend lectures repeatedly and use the labs for an entire year (this is how it was at my institute but I'm sure most will follow the same policy). The official SAP certification which is definitely overpriced at around 3-4lacs and out of reach for most who have already spent a lot on a B.Tech / BE degree is another important factor for the SAP street boom in Ameerpet.

If you are thinking about going for an SAP course in Ameerpet consider these points

Disclaimer: I'm writing these out of my experience and view point you might want to do some more research and thinking before making an decision.

Terminology: 

"Hardcore fresher" means a graduate, one with no work ex at all. 
By "trained" I mean a hardcore fresher who has just done the SAP course without the official
SAP certification.
By "certified" I mean a hardcore fresher who has done the official SAP certification but has no work-ex at all.
By "SAP fresher candidates" I mean both of the above.
These terms are valid for all modules.

Hardcore freshers don't go for it

Here's why:

1. Interview calls

It's really difficult to get any interview calls in the first place forget about getting a job! Now this may not always happen and I have a friend who got an SAP ABAP job in a month after finishing the course from one such institution in Ameerpet. But that was around 2009-2010, the situation now looks grim - in my case the course dragged too long and you waste a lot of time and secondly — limited openings. 

I've been applying for jobs since Jan, 2014 and now it's April, 2014 and I have given only 2 ABAP Fresher interviews yet. A search on naukri and other jobs portals brings up many "SAP ABAP Fresher openings" in 0-1 year experience range but hardly any of those convert to an interview opportunity. On top of that SAP AG has created a massive shortage in the SAP fresher market thanks to its policy on the certification which we will come to later in this post. 

Most companies are looking to hire consultants with at least one end-to-end implementation, one HR told me some experience even 6 months will be do if I want to appear for the interview but only trained (didn't inquire about certified) candidates are just not preferred it seems as of now and this was one of those 0-1 experience openings on naukri. MNCs hire certified professionals and may give an interview chance to the trained candidates but there are people struggling even after getting certified.

After all this very few companies are left who will call SAP fresher candidates for interviews and that makes the competition unbelievably insane. The certified ones may have an edge over the trained ones but it's not much.

2. Resume gap 

This relates to the previous post about the course duration in of software courses in Ameerpet but it goes to a whole new level in SAP courses. As a hardcore fresher it takes time to learn anything new and so it's true in SAP case as well but it takes a little more time compared to Java, C++, .Net and other stuff you must have done in your undergrad courses. I won't repeat myself, I covered this in the last post so please check it out. In short, the problem is you'll be spending a lot of time studying and mastering SAP and like I mentioned above openings for SAP freshers are few and far between, this all adds up to your resume gap which doesn't really shine there. 

For those with some work-ex
Say you have worked on Java, .Net or SQL or some other technology and you then hear from your friends that SAP consultants sleep over beds of cash then what do you do? Think about getting in, right? After all we all know your bed is old now and it's a time for change. I want to cover in this in 2 parts: 
  1. Technical to SAP
  2. Non-technical to SAP


Technical to SAP:

Most who will try to make this jump so that they can get themselves the figurative bed of cash will be from developer backgrounds. These mostly will and should go for the ABAP module which is SAP's programming language. 

A small warning here is that while it's true that knowing to work on one programming language makes the next easy, this falls a little short when it comes to ABAP. Yes overall it'll make the experience of learning seem easy but then ABAP is totally different from mainstream development languages like Java and C++. 

The object oriented concepts are the same and that will be of some help but taking the whole picture into consideration it's not much. 

I can only make a guess that for someone with database background ABAP might be easier since it deals with database too but there's lot more which I should be covering in another entire post.

And before taking this route to SAP land I think one must get into an SAP consulting firm and then think about courses and at times the courses are not required as your seniors will be around and train you on the job if you are being moved to an SAP project, it should be easier from there.

This post is becoming too big. Guess, I'll just stop here and post this and write a part 2 or come back to this and edit it. So do come back.